Claims vs Record disc-003
unresolvedsite A posted notice names Valar as locator of a lode claim where the only mineral records are gravel pits and a CO2 field; its survey tie points elsewhere
What was said
- Valar Atomics Inc (Notice of Location posted at the RW 453 monument; photo) (2026-09-12): Locates the 'RW 453' lode mining claim in the NW and NE quarters of Section 28, T14S R11E, Carbon County, on 12 September 2026, about 1,500 by 600 feet, giving a Torrance, California address.Photo of the Notice of Location posted at the RW 453 location monument (resident fieldwork, 2026-09)
What the record shows
- Utah Code 40-1-1: no location of a mining claim may be made 'until the discovery of the vein or lode within the limits of the claim'. A lode notice therefore amounts to a statement that a vein was found. 40-1-4: a copy must be recorded with the county recorder within 30 days of posting (about 12 October 2026 for RW 453).Utah Code Title 40, Chapter 1, Mining Claims (40-1-1 to 40-1-12) (Utah State Legislature, 2025-05-07)
- Mineral occurrence records within about 6 km of Section 28 list only sand-and-gravel pits (road metal, aggregate) and a carbon dioxide occurrence; no vein or lode deposit is on record (dir-003).
- 30 U.S.C. 611: 'No deposit of common varieties of sand, stone, gravel' is a valuable mineral deposit under the mining laws; carbon dioxide is obtained by lease, not by claim.30 U.S.C. 611 (common varieties not valuable mineral deposits) (Legal Information Institute (Cornell), text of the U.S. Code)
- 30 U.S.C. 612: an unpatented claim may not be used 'for any purposes other than prospecting, mining or processing operations' and uses reasonably incident to them.30 U.S.C. 612: Unpatented mining claims (Surface Resources Act) (Office of the Law Revision Counsel, U.S. House)
- County parcel records show about 37% of Section 28's north half is federal land; the rest is private, where a lode claim is valid only over federally reserved minerals (dir-002). The notice's own survey tie (8,179 feet at 265.3 degrees from the SE corner of Section 32) points about two miles west of Section 28, by our calculation (dir-001; a surveyor should confirm).Carbon County parcels (UGRC land information records), Section 28 (queried in the mining pass, dir-002) (Utah Geospatial Resource Center / Carbon County, 2025-11-26)
- BLM's public claim layer shows no RW claim yet; federal rules allow until the 90th day after location (about 11 December 2026) to record it (dir-005).43 CFR 3833.11 (recording a new claim with BLM) (Legal Information Institute (Cornell))
The gap: A lode claim asserts a discovered vein. The public mineral records for the area show only gravel, which cannot be claimed, and a gas obtained by lease. Most of the claimed quarter-sections are private surface, and the notice's survey tie points outside the section it names. In Valar's favour: a claimant can know of a mineral showing that public databases do not list, and the survey tie may be a clerical error; the county and BLM filings due in October and December will state what is claimed. What vein Valar found, if any, and what the claim is for, are not in any record read.
In plain termsTo stake a lode mining claim in Utah you must first have found a mineral vein. A lode claim notice naming Valar Atomics as locator stands about two miles south of the Carbon County site the state approved leasing to Valar. The state's mineral records for that area list only road-gravel pits and carbon dioxide, neither of which can be held by a mining claim. Much of the land in those quarter-sections is private, and the notice's own survey measurement points about two miles away from the section it names. Maybe Valar found something the records do not show, or the tie is a simple error; it has not said. Under 30 U.S.C. 612 an unpatented claim may be used only for prospecting, mining or processing. What mineral RW 453 is for is not stated in any record found; the recorded notices will show it.
Why it matters: Mining claims on federal land may be used only for prospecting, mining or processing (30 U.S.C. 612); the county and BLM filings due in October and December will show what RW 453 claims.
What would settle it: The recorded RW location notices at the Carbon County Recorder (due by about 12 October 2026); BLM recordation (due by about 11 December 2026) and any 43 CFR 3809 notice; BLM's Master Title Plat for Section 28; a request to BLM's Price Field Office to examine the claims' validity; ask Valar what mineral it claims.